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Posted By: Phil Realmuto
Posted On: Sunday June 9, 2019 at 12:38 PM
 
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This is a Topic thats always been and ALWAYS will be debatable and hard to agree!
Take for example a PRISTINE FLAWLESS model that has been displayed in a dust free environment. Collector kept ALL the original packing/boxes etc. IF that said model were to be placed back into its' original packing and it wasn't mentioned that it was displayed, one would NEVER be able to tell the difference!

SO that said some would simply say "Mint in BOX" another seller might list everything I said and say "Was displayed in dust free environment, previously display but shows as NEW and mint" MANY here have a problem with this and there really is no right or wrong answer. To some if it was displayed no matter its current condition then it's NOT mint in box. Others like myself don't care as long as the model IS MINT and nothing is altered, broken or missing and the box is in good shape and all packing present etc..

Still the purist will argue it's only MINT IN BOX ONCE and once opened and or displayed it's no longer Mint In Box. Heck some collectors only want a FACTORY SEALED MODEL that was never opened. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! Why? Some models suffer from die-cast degradation/zemack cancer. Say you bought a MINT IN BOX never opened FM 1955 Red/black Pontiac, DM 1960 Thunderbird w/sunroof or a CMC Burgandy Horch. Many of these are crumbling away now! Imagine you open it and it's falling apart? Does the seller have any liability in such case if he/she never opened it to inspect it, and you the buyer ONLY want an unopened model? I'd say NO as that buyer only wanted an UNOPENED MODEL so..... it is what it is a crap shot.

I won't argue this point or topic as it's beating a dead horse and we will will agree to disagree to agree then disagree some more! LOL Again for ME IF said model arrives pristine, clean, no smells, nothing missing, excellent paint etc. then Im getting a model that IS Mint in box. If it was displayed or gently handled and one couldn't tell then Im fine and accepting of this! Look at that Bellvedere that was buried for about 50 years that was BRAND NEW when vaulted. That was MINT IN VAULT when it was buried, NOT so much when unearthed! LOL

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AUCTION CONCERN. I have a problem with a car being touted as "Mint In Box", but then by George Schire #54663
I hear what you’re saying George. In a perfect world ..... by Phil Realmuto #54663.1
I'm not OK with it. by Robert Bolin #54663.1.1
I agree. I do think non-collectors overuse the term selling dad's collection too. (EOM) by Ron Dietrich #54663.1.1.1
Ron thats a GREAT POINT but I honestly think .... by Phil Realmuto #54663.1.1.1.1
Right Phil, and its why clear pictures are of utmost importance (EOM) by Ron Dietrich #54663.1.1.1.1.1
HOW MANY listings have we seen fuzzy pictures ... it's like ... DUDE - What are U hiding?? (EOM) by Dennis Mong #54663.1.1.1.1.1.1
Exactly! When I see that I do one thing....... by Phil Realmuto #54663.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
+ 1 (EOM) by Dennis Mong #54663.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
Boy heaven forebid making a mistake on a listing around here. Sorry I ruffled your feathers. I sure by Hollis Cornell #54663.2
listings by John Peaslee #54663.2.1
+ 1 (EOM) by Dennis Mong #54663.2.1.1
Okay John Peaslee and Dennis Mong...I'm going to comment on your very disrespectful post directed by George Schire #54663.2.1.2
Attention to detail. by Robert Bolin #54663.2.2
Robert Bolin...you and I are on the same page my friend. There is no excuse for getting something by George Schire #54663.2.2.1
Hollis im sure you meant ZERO Ill intentions here. by Phil Realmuto #54663.2.3
eom (EOM) by ALAN FRANK #54663.2.3.1
This is a Topic thats always been and ALWAYS will be debatable and hard to agree! by Phil Realmuto #54663.3
MINT in box vs. NEW in box by Barry Levittan #54663.3.1
And if it is missing a part or parts? (EOM) by Robert Bolin #54663.3.1.1
Using mint in a description is common place and been around for some time. by Bruce Gibbins #54663.4




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